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 Post subject: AllTrumps flour
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:38 pm 
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For N.Y. style pizza hand tossed and cooked on a deck using All Trumps high gluten flour, which is the better choice, Bleached and bromated or unbleached and unbromated??? Is there that much difference? The price is the same....Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: AllTrumps flour
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:16 pm 
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Oh no...here comes the bromated thing again! I used the #50143 that Tom recommended and had good success. Bromated flours are at the center of a worldwide discussion and is probably going to be banned in the US as it has been elsewhere. I would say use the non and run with it!


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 Post subject: Re: AllTrumps flour
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:07 am 
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I totally agree, If I had my druthers, I'd druther use the un/non-bromated version, but if my local supplier didn't carry it, I'd have no real issues using the bromated version. It'll buy you some time to lean on your supplier to get you the non-bromated version or find a supplier who can/will.
Tom Lehmann/The Dough Doctor


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 Post subject: Re: AllTrumps flour
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:41 am 
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Do you have to change your recipe any if you use unbromated?


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 Post subject: Re: AllTrumps flour
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:54 am 
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Sam;
No, the two perform almost identically. The bromate MAY contribute slightly to a little more dough memory (snap-back) than a non-bromated flour in SOME circumstances, but for most of us, you will never see the difference. The reason for the bromate in the first place is to improve the baking performance of the flour when used by the bread baker. In most pizza applications you would be hard pressed to see any difference between bromated and non-bromated versions of the same flour. My take is if it doesn't help, why add it, and besides, the health concerns over bromated flour are also a consideration in asking for a non-bromated flour.
Tom Lehmann/The Dough Doctor


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 Post subject: Re: AllTrumps flour
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:04 pm 
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If you really care about the health of your customers, the way to go is unbleached UNBROMATED.


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 Post subject: Re: AllTrumps flour
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:27 pm 
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Looks like unbleached unbromated for me! Glad AllTrumps has it...Thanks all.


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 Post subject: Re: AllTrumps flour
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:24 pm 
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We've recently made the switch to unbromated/unbleached and our supplier brought it in the warehouse for us. We had to make a few adjustments to the recipe and also mix about 35% longer but it's ok.

Personally I did this as much for the staff as for the customers. I know when I work the oven (not often anymore) I usually go home covered in flour, in my pockets, etc. I figure we all breath in a lot of it through the air and it's probably not good for the staff.
Also, I figured we'd be all set for the future if the gov. decides to ban the bromate.


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 Post subject: Re: AllTrumps flour
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:00 pm 
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We use Bouncer and our supplier finally got their unbleached, unbromated variety in stock. Of course, it costs $1 more per bag... *sigh*.

Anyways, we ordered some to experiment with and should have it on Friday's truck. I can't wait to see how our dough turns out using it!

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 Post subject: Re: AllTrumps flour
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:10 am 
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brad randall wrote:
We use Bouncer and our supplier finally got their unbleached, unbromated variety in stock. Of course, it costs $1 more per bag... *sigh*.

Anyways, we ordered some to experiment with and should have it on Friday's truck. I can't wait to see how our dough turns out using it!

Let us know your findings on this. I too just ordered 100lbs of Alltrumps unbleached/ unbromated and anxious to see how it is.


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