employee uniforms

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  1. npizza

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    I’d like to see how you guys handle employee uniforms. Over the years the way I distribute them has varied. I started just giving the staff a few each. Until I caught a driver checking his oil with one. So then I switched to: You get one for free then you pay for the rest.

    But know with my second location I’m up to 40+ employees, with quite a few new hires. I had a few work a few days and either quit of get fired without returning the uniform.
    When I worked for Dominos they took a deposit for the first shirt and required you to purchase any additional.
    I'd like to start taking deposits. Any ideas???
     
  2. johnnyboy

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    If I am not mistaken it's against the law to make employees pay for uniforms. See where Cheesecake Factory was hit with a lawsuit for this very thing. There are ways around it though. The deposit sounds like a great idea. I will check and get back...
     
  3. pizza2007

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    BS


    YOU CAN REQUIRE EMPLOYEES PAY FOR UNIFORMS AS LONG AS AFTER THE COST OF THE UNIFORM, THEIR PAY IS STILL ABOVE MINIMUM WAGE.
     
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    Every place I worked for, charged a $10-$15 deposit for shirts. Which is refunded only IF the employee returns the shirt when they're fired or quit.
     
  5. npizza

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    I want to hold a deposit for the first shirt, my payroll company said they can deduct it from the check and keep track.
    But what should I do about the guy that works full time, that needs more than one. Take a deopsit for each one or charge? Also do you think I need them to sign a form or would the payroll record be enough?
     
  6. Anonymous

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    If you want to require uniforms, then it is just another part of the cost of doing business. Don't be cheap about it and just pay for them. If a single person is irresponsible with them, than deal with the individual... Don't change the rules for everyone just because you failed to correct a single employee.

    Here is what the law says:

     
  7. npizza

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    To be honest almost every employee has been irresponsible with them. A kid can have 3 days off and say it's in the wash I need more. I have given my managers and full timers a handfull, it's the new people I'm talking about. I'm using polo shirts screen printed with 3 colors, not a $3 t-shirt.
     
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    When I worked at Domino's back in high school, the store had a linen service handle the uniforms. Employees would come in to work, change into one of the uniforms off the rack, and then put it into a laundry basket before leaving at the end of the day.

    I'm certain it would be more expensive. But it would also ensure that every employee had a clean, wrinkle-free and "unscented" shirt for each and every shift.

    You could also have a cheaper shirt you give new employees while training. Maybe with an altered color scheme that would mark them as trainees. After they stick around/prove themselves, then they get to don the official uniform.
     
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    when i worked for dominos we had a washer and dryer in store and at night the closing manager would start a load and then the opening shift would throw them in the dryer and hang them up when dry we used a small apt size wash dry that stacked had it plumed in right next to mop sink no one was allowed to wear uniforms out the door
     
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    I just give my people all the shirts they need. I've done it all to. Pay for, deposit ect. None of it is worth the hassle. Your uniform expense will be high when you are starting out like npizza. But over time you will weed out the flakes, your responsible people will remain and your uniform expense will be very low. I have 75 employees and spend less than $1000 a year on uniforms. Back in the day when I was at the npizza status my expense was way over $5000 a year.
     
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    I give my employees shirts(polo) and hats when they start. I'll give them the right amount of uniforms depending on how many hours they'll be working.

    If they don't take care of their shirt and it gets stained from not wearing an apron or torn I make them buy another one. But once a shirt starts to fade and look bad from normal wear and tear I get them a new one.
     
  12. Piper

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    It's not BS. In my state it is illegal to require an employee to pay for a uniform that is required to be worn regardless of minimum wage implications. You can say "you need to wear black pants and a red shirt" and they're responsible for paying for it. But if you require them to wear a specific shirt (e.g. with a logo) you can not require them to pay for it. You can collect a deposit of up to $20.00 which is refundable when they return the uniform upon separation.

    The state also requires only one required uniform; employers are allowed to sell additional uniforms after that.

    Beyond minimum wage implications everyone should check with their state law regarding this topic as they will have jurisdiction.
     
  13. Anonymous

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    Which state is that?
     
  14. pizza2007

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    Piper, with all due respect.... BS.

    State labor laws only go so far: for example, as long as my uniform practice does not break a public law, I can do it. Just for grins, I can require an employee to wear a coat and tie, dress shoes, etc.... <--- and I don't have to pay for it. The question an owner must consider, based on compensation, is what is fair to the employee - the employee is also making the same consideration. If the dress requirement is too expensive, the employee will leave.

    For your information, its quite common for businesses to require uniforms and also require employees to make those purchases. Check out the US Military, for example.
     
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    Very true... that's why I stated that example in my post. The issue comes up when requiring an employee to wear a specific uniform, for example with a logo. Although, based on Royster's post you wouldn't be able to do that in Washington which specifies "formal wear" as one of the types of clothing an employee can not be required to purchase.

    Royster's post sums it up... The original poster, npizza, happens to be located in Massachusetts. You'll find on that link that Massachusetts is one of the handful of states that would not allow him to charge his employees for uniforms. Nevada, New Hampshire, New York are other examples. Minnesota allows you to deduct up to $50, but you must pay it back upon the return of the uniform.

    I don't really have a dog in this fight - I pay for all of my employees uniforms and I even pay an allowance for them to launder them. Just wanted to point out that there is not a blanket answer to this question and people should check with their state's labor law before deciding.
     
  17. Anonymous

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    The US Military are given an additional clothing allowance.

    http://usmilitary.about.com/od/fy2010pa ... niform.htm

    http://usmilitary.about.com/od/fy2010pa ... rmnavy.htm

     
  18. pizza2007

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    Piper, I agree with your original reply, that you should know your state laws. Just wanted to point out obvious exceptions to new business owners.

    Gregster, I can post the entire regulation if that helps you. Elsewise, while service members do get a clothing allowance, its no where near the actual cost of uniform maintenance. Yes, if they track receipts they can deduct from tax returns. But they're out the extraordinary costs above their annual allowance.

    Piper, I really do admire and respect your time and posts - I didn't mean any insult in my reply.
     
  19. HannahBananasOnline

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    Easy, first ones free. If they want more I just charge them my cost. Also, We just moved from red to all black so you can't see the stains, works wonders for my cooks :) Servers black shirts with Khaki pants. I worked for just about every corporate restaurant, you could always get as many as you wanted and it came out of your check. That was in PA, NJ, FL, AL, NV, CA and OR.
    Good luck this weekend!
     
  20. Kris

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    Actually learned some new stuff I didn't know....so thanks for posting all of it.

    We can't forget image and first impressions greatly impact our business. We used to have nice logo polos and when I realized I could order bulk screen printed shirts (Hanes heavy weight beefy t) for about 4 bucks when buying in bulk I went that route. I give them 2 shirts when they are hired and they can purchase additional shirts if need be. I charge what I pay it is not an area for me to make ANY money.

    Bottom line is, Employees like new shirts and when they start at our place it is nice to give them new shirts and new hats. At anytime the employee can trade that shirt if it has a stain, rip r whatever. We cut the shirt up so it goes in the trash.

    I want my employees to look and feel good coming to work. At 4-5 bucks it is worth the investment.

    When they quit I don't want the shirts back who likes to wear a used shirt?