I’ll echo Clownhair … Perhaps the Lincoln’s of the the 80’s and 90’s were built more stable …2 of mine were ‘07 models and I had a ‘16 Fastbake (Best of the bunch)… I just bought 3 EDGE ovens in 2021 and LOVE them … My Lincolns we’re ok for a while, and then I was having recurrent issues with both the Solenoids, Valve, Control Boards and it was constantly happening during business hours, especially on a happening evening. The warranty and QOS on EDGE should be award winning … The options to change the top baffle pattern and change fan speed fine tune the baking of your pie is just amazing. I will say not having a door has its pluses and minuses as you cannot give it a quick internal clean without basically tearing it all down, but, it does make it nice to be able to take apart every item and clean it in the sink. Plus! Everything is stainless, including the door hinge/close plates, which I hat nothing but issues with the Lincoln ones warping and coming loose over the years. I highly recommend!