For those who have not used Tom Lehmann's hoagie rolls recipe from the recipe bank, and who need a good recipe, his is a very good and very simple one to use. I made up a small run of this recipe today, am very pleased. I've not had that kind of success with loaf bread before. Always falls flat or poor baking. His is flavorful, soft enough, but with enough chew to have character, and great instructions. A 25 lb bag of flour worth will bake up righteous, and hold for a few days well. This is in my rotation for good now. Easy enough to modify, flavor, make signature style with. Try it.