A couple of months ago I was solicited by a Sales Rep from this company and he convinced me to try their products. He assured that I would like the products, but if I didn't he would give me credit toward the products that I did like of his. He and his boss have since fallen off the face of the Earth. Do not use their products. Do not entertain them in any way. The only product that is half decent is the Cleaner-Degreaser. Anything else may as well be colored water.