Does that exclude me too because I’m from Australia ???We must also take into consideration the 8 states that do not allow tip credit. Any votes from these states should not be considered when tallying the final percentages of tip credit/non tip-credit shops.
I think we’re supposed to eliminate anyone that trends the results the wrong way.PPG2270:
Does that exclude me too because I’m from Australia ???We must also take into consideration the 8 states that do not allow tip credit. Any votes from these states should not be considered when tallying the final percentages of tip credit/non tip-credit shops.
Dave
What is taken into consideration is the participating Think Tank members regardless of location. You have accused ALL operators of moral misconduct. The results of this survey show that you are barking up the wrong tree here.We must also take into consideration the 8 states that do not allow tip credit. Any votes from these states should not be considered when tallying the final percentages of tip credit/non tip-credit shops.
No I can’t see who voted but I tend to agree with your suppositions.Daddio
As a moderator can you see who has voted for what.
Call me a cynic but I would suspect that 2 of the people (out of 3) who have voted for ‘tip credit’ aren’t even owners!
Have I? I think I expressed what my issues are. I believe I said that tip credit is morally wrong. That eliminates anyone who does not use the law. Also, those in the 8 states without tip credit laws cannot be used, as we do not know what they would do it the laws existed in their state. As far as this survey seeking to find what I am looking for (as your initial post implies), it has failed.PPG2270:
What is taken into consideration is the participating Think Tank members regardless of location. You have accused ALL operators of moral misconduct. The results of this survey show that you are barking up the wrong tree here.We must also take into consideration the 8 states that do not allow tip credit. Any votes from these states should not be considered when tallying the final percentages of tip credit/non tip-credit shops.
I did vote on behalf of the shop where I work, and yes we all know that it is a sub-min shop. Because I am not an “owner” my vote does not count? The shop’s owner pays sub-min, and I voted as such. Thank you.Daddio
As a moderator can you see who has voted for what.
Call me a cynic but I would suspect that 2 of the people (out of 3) who have voted for ‘tip credit’ aren’t even owners!
By the wording of the question you are automatically excluded. How do YOU pay YOUR drivers? Since you do not pay drivers you are excluded from answering the question, Correct?Wizzle Wassell:
I did vote on behalf of the shop where I work, and yes we all know that it is a sub-min shop. Because I am not an “owner” my vote does not count? The shop’s owner pays sub-min, and I voted as such. Thank you.Daddio
As a moderator can you see who has voted for what.
Call me a cynic but I would suspect that 2 of the people (out of 3) who have voted for ‘tip credit’ aren’t even owners!
I think we’re back on to gregsters old trick of changing the argument when his position became untenable, telling the original poster what their thread was actually about, same way he ignored whole posts when if got too difficult.By the wording of the question you are automatically excluded. How do YOU pay YOUR drivers? Since you do not pay drivers you are excluded from answering the question, Correct?
The purpose of this survey is to determine how owners/operators pay their drivers. Nowhere is the question asked what the law is in anyone’s particular location. All answers from owner/operators are to be considered valid as they are indicating whether your argument has merit here on this board. I maintain the belief your rants are misdirected because the vast majority of the owner/operators on this board(regardless of location) are paying minimum wage or better.Have I? I think I expressed what my issues are. I believe I said that tip credit is morally wrong. That eliminates anyone who does not use the law. Also, those in the 8 states without tip credit laws cannot be used, as we do not know what they would do it the laws existed in their state. As far as this survey seeking to find what I am looking for (as your initial post implies), it has failed.
When you say you “do the same”, are you referring to the pay rate or paying off the books?When I was a delivery guy I was getting paid 6 an hour off the books and keeping all my tips. I just recently brought my own pizzeria in east meadow long island and I do the same.