knightwing1995
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It does seem more of a pain than it should be,or maybe its just from the way its being told from certain points…
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Oh Gregster with your badass battleship avatar, please just go get a job at Wal-Mart and let someone else have your sub-minimum wage job. I truly hope you work for one of the big boys and sue the pants off them for making you work such a terrible job that you haven’t left in the 1 1/2 years I’ve been visiting these boards. You wouldn’t last a month in my shop, my employees would bounce you so fast.
Why don’t both of you address the safety issues I brought up instead of making the post about me? I raised valid points and gave reasoning for my conclusions. Instead of coming out on the side of safety for delivery drivers, you suggest that I should just quit or move on. I hope you don’t treat your own employees they same way when they bring up safety concerns. :roll:seriously Greg, why don’t you man up and discuss these points with your boss, instead of complaining to the internet constantly. If he won’t pay you what you think is fair, get another job.
Safety frequently IS an issue in minimum and sub-minimum wage jobs. Low paid workers are very frequently taken advantage of and expected to work in the most dangerous conditions. Workers who complain are told to shut up and stop complaining, and are threatened with termination if they continue or threaten to report the problems to authorities. They very fact that I am being chastised here by the owners and managers in the very same industry I comment about just lends credence to the notion that anyone speaking up about workplace safety and pay is not welcome and will be dealt with by intimidation and threats instead of addressing and correcting the issues.Not one person said talking about safety was like beating a dead horse in fact most have agreed with the point you’ve made about delivery points.
They are talking about your uncanny ability to turn everything into a minimum wage issue.
Posted by GetLegal.com on February 15, 2010
Nobody told you to shut up Greg. When you put it in a quotation you are implying that somebody actually said that. Nobody did, and I don’t believe anybody would. Nobody told you to stop complaining either. All they said was that they’re well versed in your opinions, and perhaps it’s time to move the conversation forward. If I read correctly, the gist of one post is that it’s time to stop talking about fixing things and let us know what you’re going to do to actually fix them. I think some are tired of hearing you preach to us (whom you don’t know) while at the same time continuing to let your employer run roughshod over you and your co-workers.But frankly I believe that the above posts are telling me to ‘shut up’ and stop complaining and I don’t take that lightly at all coming from the very people who are in the same position to tell their own workers the same thing if they ever speak up about safety or labor violations at work.
Herein lies the problem - I don’t think anybody disagrees with your points of view, hence why nobody has explained their case. I certainly don’t want my employees to view me the way you view your employer. The way you attempt to get your points across, however, can be fairly accusatory. Just as you wouldn’t want us to assume you’re a stereotypical driver we don’t want you to assume we are stereotypical owners. Your posts, intended or not, seem to presuppose that most of us are breaking the law or don’t take our employees’ safety and concerns into account.I firmly believe that I contribute very useful information to this community and also offer a unique informed perspective to what is posted here. If you disagree with my points of view, then by all means state why and explain your case.
I don’t think anybody insulted you. As a matter of fact I think everyone is pretty cordial to you, so please don’t try to play the martyr role. Can you imagine the response we would get if one of us started posting on TTPG? Do you think anybody there would tolerate us long enough to discuss the issues that owners face? There would be no way to contain the vitriol and name calling. In light of that, I think you’re greeted with a great deal of professionalism here.But if you simply don’t like my presence here I suggest that you bring it up with the admins and keep your insults to yourselves.
We’ve all got permission to post here, the fact they’ve had to talk to you about your posting is because of the very way you go about it. The fact they’ve allowed you to ‘continue’ doesn’t give you any special right or add any weight to what you are trying to say.The board admins have given me permission to continue posting here as long as I do it respectfully and I certainly believe I have been doing just that. I would hope that you who disagree with me could say your piece respectfully as well and leave it at that.
the interesting parts of that are:The main enemy of the TTPG members seems to be the large multi-unit corporate owners such as NPC and PJ United.
That’s what makes me loose my internet civility from time to time. It’s just constant b****ing from him about employee rights, how hard is life is because of his employer but constantly talks like he’s the baddest driver in the city. Instead of annoying the community here with his of base accusations, he should be filing a complaint about his wages or just take his services to a competitor. If he’s making under minimum wage, then there are a lot of opportunities for him to get a pay increase somewhere else.b) even though Gregster works for one of ‘the bad guys’ he chooses to stay as he ends better of than working else where - go figure that one!