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PPG I think the bottom line to this conversation is fairly simple. Every person will tip what they will. I do not believe for one minute that a delivery charge greatly impacts the amount a person tips. When I get a delivery of food items I look at the total and pay the bill. I then tip the driver $3-5 on average. More if the order is especially large. Do I base my tip off a percentage of the bill…no. The driver is not a server and taking care of my party of people at their establishment. They are dropping off a package. Bad weather might get them a bump… or being there really quickly. I cannot remember a time that I questioned a delivery fee.
Your arguement that the shop ALWAYS keeps the delivery fee is just stupid. Yes, some shops keep part to cover delivery overhead. Some give the driver it all. Some split it. Oh, and shops that provide cars and gas…etc… keep it all as they should. Just like you say raise the prices and offer free delivery… why not just pay the delivery drivers less per hour and let them keep the fees? It is all the same. Even if you were happy with the base pay of all your brothers on the road… you would still not be happy with some other factor. Delivery work is a tipped occupation. Some tip great…some so-so… and some do not! It is a balancing act and if you work for sub-min wages and bad tips in the ghetto with…and I quote you here… all the “homies” and risk getting shot, mugged, and raped on every run… that is your own stupid mistake. Get a better paying and safer job. You argue what high level of importance that a driver is too any business and people should not start as a driver but be promoted to this level… then getting into another line of work should be easy.
Why not take this fight too the big 3 where only a change in their pay policies will ever have the impact that you are looking for. You are not going to get the feds or states to remove tip-credit pay. The restaurant industry will not allow that one. Also, servers are for the most part not there for a career. They also make more than minimum wage when tips are included. You have to be a really bad server not too.
I think the real underlying issue here has nothing to do with anything but the idea that you and other drivers believe they should make high salaries for doing little work. Maybe if O-bomb-a makes a Pizza Delivery Driver Entitlement Fund… which he might as he wants to give to everyone out there… then maybe you will all get your six-figured salaries that I truly believe you think you deserve. In reality you drive a car and drop off a package. That is all you do! Get over yourselves as you are not the grease that keeps the wheels spinning. You are all replaceable as any employee within any business is. Except…the OWNER of a small business…and that is only true too a point. If you want to open your own place and pay the executive drivers high salaries and not charge delivery fees…. Chain the kitchen workers to the make line…etc… it is all your option to do so. Why not lead by example here! Go open your dream establishment…make sure that you advertise that your drivers are the best and highest paid in the world…and that you have free delivery…so remember to mandatorily tip 50% of the bill so they can afford the upkeep of their 65mpg BMW electric hybrids…etc…etc…etc. Then come back and share this dream of a business plan with the rest of us greedy pos business owners that only live to pocket that dang delivery fee from all of our drivers. I wish I had drivers so I could take a longer vacation this year!
LEAD BY EXAMPLE…PROVE EVERYONE WRONG HERE!!!
Your arguement that the shop ALWAYS keeps the delivery fee is just stupid. Yes, some shops keep part to cover delivery overhead. Some give the driver it all. Some split it. Oh, and shops that provide cars and gas…etc… keep it all as they should. Just like you say raise the prices and offer free delivery… why not just pay the delivery drivers less per hour and let them keep the fees? It is all the same. Even if you were happy with the base pay of all your brothers on the road… you would still not be happy with some other factor. Delivery work is a tipped occupation. Some tip great…some so-so… and some do not! It is a balancing act and if you work for sub-min wages and bad tips in the ghetto with…and I quote you here… all the “homies” and risk getting shot, mugged, and raped on every run… that is your own stupid mistake. Get a better paying and safer job. You argue what high level of importance that a driver is too any business and people should not start as a driver but be promoted to this level… then getting into another line of work should be easy.
Why not take this fight too the big 3 where only a change in their pay policies will ever have the impact that you are looking for. You are not going to get the feds or states to remove tip-credit pay. The restaurant industry will not allow that one. Also, servers are for the most part not there for a career. They also make more than minimum wage when tips are included. You have to be a really bad server not too.
I think the real underlying issue here has nothing to do with anything but the idea that you and other drivers believe they should make high salaries for doing little work. Maybe if O-bomb-a makes a Pizza Delivery Driver Entitlement Fund… which he might as he wants to give to everyone out there… then maybe you will all get your six-figured salaries that I truly believe you think you deserve. In reality you drive a car and drop off a package. That is all you do! Get over yourselves as you are not the grease that keeps the wheels spinning. You are all replaceable as any employee within any business is. Except…the OWNER of a small business…and that is only true too a point. If you want to open your own place and pay the executive drivers high salaries and not charge delivery fees…. Chain the kitchen workers to the make line…etc… it is all your option to do so. Why not lead by example here! Go open your dream establishment…make sure that you advertise that your drivers are the best and highest paid in the world…and that you have free delivery…so remember to mandatorily tip 50% of the bill so they can afford the upkeep of their 65mpg BMW electric hybrids…etc…etc…etc. Then come back and share this dream of a business plan with the rest of us greedy pos business owners that only live to pocket that dang delivery fee from all of our drivers. I wish I had drivers so I could take a longer vacation this year!
LEAD BY EXAMPLE…PROVE EVERYONE WRONG HERE!!!